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In the live casino industry of today, competition is cut throat and options like live Baccarat are an absolute must for most punters who will simply not hesitate to move onto another casino without thinking twice about it. Some of the most popular versions of Baccarat include Punto Banco, Chemin de Fer and Mini-Baccarat. However, in an online or live dealer Baccarat setup – you are most likely to find Punto Banco version being used.

What makes Baccarat such a favourite among punters of all ages, backgrounds and states in the USA is the fact that the learning curve is very gentle which means you can pick up the game just by playing a couple or more demo rounds. There are essentially three bets you can make each hand, namely, the players hand, the dealers hand or a drawtie.

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Why Play Live Dealer Baccarat?

It may sound like you are blindly guessing the bets in a game of Baccarat, and that it is purely a luck based game, but it needs to be understood that there is still an unspoken bluff aspect of it and this is precisely why some people are able to play it better than others.

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Playing Baccarat is simply not the same when you play against a random number generator (RNG), which is the technology most online casinos use in order to provide transparency that their games are fair and not rigged.

Therefore, playing live dealer Baccarat makes perfect sense. It is the next best thing to actually playing in a land based casino with the dealer standing just a few feet across you. The live dealer Baccarat option brings back a human element into the game which is lost when you play against the computer which is using a RNG.

How Live Dealer Baccarat Is Setup and How It Works

Live Baccarat, like most live dealer games is actually anchored by a third party company which then render it to the many casino software providers such as NetEnt or Playtech. However, a lot of the software providers (especially the bigger, more popular ones) are now in the process of setting up their own live dealer Baccarat and other live dealer games so that they are independent of the third party companies.

Having said that, there really isn’t much of a difference for the player or end user whether the live dealer Baccarat game is being hosted by the casino software provider themselves or whether it is the third party company which is hosting it. At the end of the day, irrespective of who is hosting it, the game is just as enjoyable and secure to the player.

All you need to do to play live dealer Baccarat in the online casino of your choice (provided that they offer live dealer Baccarat) is simply choose Baccarat from the live games section in the lobby and then proceed to choose a table depending on your preferred buy – in.

Once you do this the table and the live dealer will now be visible and you can pretty much get started playing. Remember to make your bets before the timer runs out and also there is chat window where you can say hello to the live dealer.

Live Dealer Baccarat FAQ

What exactly is Live Baccarat and how does it work? Well, keep reading for answers to the most common questions and find out.

Although it can be a profitable game, Baccarat is not the best card game when it comes to player returns. This title has to go to Blackjack, which has a theoretical house edge of around 0.5% or lower.

Depending on the bet, Baccarat’s house edge can range from 1.06% to 14.36%, with even the safest bet still not being as good as Blackjack. However, the house edge also depends on your personal skills and game rules. This means that if you are untrained card player, you are likely to suffer more loses no matter what. That’s why most beginners prefer Baccarat, since it is simpler to understand.

Progressive Baccarat is basically Classic Baccarat with a lucrative side bet. The side bet is made on a progressive jackpot pool or other prizes determined by the game’s pay-table and it can only be won when a pre-defined Tie, Banker, or Player hand is dealt, or other specific situations arise. However, Progressive Live Baccarat isn’t as common as classic versions of the game.

Just like other Live Dealer games, Live Baccarat is streamed from a live studio where a dealer is sitting behind a table. As a player you can clearly see all the dealer’s actions, as the camera never moves, and you can communicate with him/her through a live chat feature.

There is also a graphical interface bordering the stream where the bets and other relevant information are displayed, which you can customize to your liking. Basically, it’s just like playing in a land-based casino, only you need to rely on your computer/mobile to talk to dealers.

Although the selection of Live Baccarat games isn’t as colorful as other live casino games, there are still some choices to be made. Apart from Classic Baccarat, you can also play Progressive Baccarat, Baccarat Banque, Punto Banco, and Baccarat Chemin de Fer. However, not every casino will offer all versions.

This is one of the most common questions that new players ask and the answer always depends entirely on what you mean by “beatable”. The truth is that, according to statistics, the Banker’s hand will win about 50.38% of the time and it has a fairly low house edge of 1.06%. Whether this is considered beatable or not, is up to you.

There are some casinos that let you join a Live Baccarat game and watch, but you will not be allowed to take any action whatsoever. This is normal, considering Live Baccarat tables have limited seats and to reserve a seat for you to practice without any money would be just plain illogical. But watching the game is useful also, as you can learn the tempo and feel of the game before you spend money.

The best bet in Baccarat is always the Banker bet, as it is the safest bet to win. However, money-wise, it isn’t the most lucrative one. The Banker bet gets a 1 to 1 payout, but as it has the lowest house edge in a game of Baccarat, or 1.06%, most experienced players prefer it.

On the other hand, the most profitable bet is the Tie Bet, which pays out either 8 to 1, or 9 to 1. But since it has the highest house edge of 14.36%, you are advised to avoid it at all times, since the chances of a tie being dealt are fairly low, or 9.5%.

Both games are virtually identical, except for the human factor. The odds are nearly always the same and so are the rules, although some casinos might alter them slightly. That’s why it’s important to read through the fine print before you join a table.

Card counting is impossible in both online and Live Dealer versions of Baccarat. Since you can use your computer to gain a significant advantage, the casino has to protect itself from abuse. This is done by using 6 to 8 decks per game, which are always reshuffled half way through, thus making card counting useless.

The standard game of Baccarat pays 1 to 1 for a Banker bet, but the casino always charges a 5% commission on this payout. Zero Commission Baccarat is a game where this 5% charge is supposedly not applied, that is, not at first.

However, with Zero Commission Baccarat, if the Banker wins the hand with a 6 score, your payouts will be 0.5:1, i.e. you will still get the commission charged to you in the end. Also, Zero Commission Baccarat has a higher Banker bet house edge of 1.46%, when compared to standard Baccarat where the same house edge is 1.06%. Thus, it is much more costly in the long run.

SOOPOO

Hey, tips are always appreciated. As for SOOPOO's comment: In any customer service aspect where a manager as some discretion on how to handle it, the customer who is more pleasant to the employee will be better taken care of. Many people here have probably not worked in customer service, but for those who have they know the nicer, more polite customer is going to be better taken care of. It is what it is.


I live in the real world, and I know what you are saying is true! I just want to hear from Dan on his thoughts... That a casino employee will use tipping as a factor in adjudicating a dispute....
rainman
Customer service is where I get confused. should I tip the tire guy that fixed my flat? How about the girl who bagged my groceries at the store? How about your doctor, lawyer, or butcher. Are these people all not performing a service for me? If these dealers cant make ends meet they better look for another job where they don't have to count on strangers. Oh I know what your thinking your thinking then I wont have no one to deal the games to me, well so be it. But we know the truth is if the tips quit coming and the dealers quit dealing the house will dig into there massive piles of profit and fix the situation.
Another thing why do people continually refer to card counters and the act thereof as cheaters and cheating? This issue has been addressed in are court system and deemed legal. So anybody misrepresenting the legality of this seems to me a dishonest person.
Lastly I would like to address this notion that casinos are righteous and only have good intent. In another thread they were discussing staff telling customers to not look at a whale playing or they would be ejected. So because this whale is spending more money than me I'm supposed to turn my head and not directly look at the messiah or they will kick me out? I definitely would have stared the guy down in defiance.
Alcohol anyone? Every one knows that in the early days of vegas the practice of serving free liquor was done to inhibit the players self control. this practice continues today for the same purpose. Do you think the rewards system is in place to thank you for your play? lol Or do you think its there to dangle carrots in your face to induce you to play more? yep i see alot of integrity in them casinos lol
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Alcohol anyone? Every one knows that in the early days of vegas the practice of serving free liquor was done to inhibit the players self control. this practice continues today for the same purpose. Do you think the rewards system is in place to thank you for your play? lol Or do you think its there to dangle carrots in your face to induce you to play more? yep i see alot of integrity in them casinos lol


You know what, I would much rather have the casino serve me free booze than to have to pay for it. And, I prefer the people who serve me to be doing it based on their own self interest rather than altruism. Consider the situation where you have to be at the airport at 5:00 am. Your brother in law offers to drive you for free, or you can take a cab. Who is more likely to show up on time, the selfish cabbie, or your hypothetical brother in law who certainly loves you, but also hasn't held a job for more than 6 months....
It is immature to expect strangers to do wonderful things for us out of the goodness of their hearts. Expecting self interested actors to serve us is much more grown up and realistic. Imagine the farmer in Nebraska who raises beef cows and produces great steaks that end up being eaten by wall street big shots in the finest steak houses in New York. The farmer gets up before dawn every day to take care of his livestock so that these bankers can eat steak and he can make a living. Imagine if we had to rely on his love for New Yorkers and bankers to get him up at 4:00am every day....
The same is true for casinos. If they want to give you free booze, consider why they are doing it but say thanks and take it. To say they lack integrity because they are trying to make money and giving away gifts in the meanwhile shows that one's moral compass is a bit off.
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Exactly what I say. Almost EVERY job is some form of customer service. Could you imagine if you were expected to tip everyone that performed a 'service' for you? Just think of all the people you'd have to pay extra to that helped build your automobile.

Anytime someone requests something from me, I simply tell them to write their request on a $20 bill and hand it to me, and I'll be sure it gets done.
FrGamble
Just to go back to the whole dealer mistakes question - I was hoping someone can help me sleep at night. I just got back from a very good trip to my local casino. The dealers are all super friendly and great. However, one guy at the craps table was making all kinds of ploppy bets in the middle for incorrect amounts and changing bets all the time. I felt for the dealers and they were struggling to keep up with this guy and do the math. At one point he was playing the don't and won, the dealer paid the DP with the green stack instead of the red for a $50 buck mistake. I saw it the guy saw it but the dealer kept on going. I didn't say anything and that is the first reason I feel bad. However I really feel bad because I keep thinking that they are going to review the tapes and knock this dealer, who is a nice guy and a good dealer. Can someone help put my conscience at ease and/or tell me the procedure for reviewing dealers (if there is any) who may have made a pretty big mistake during the day?
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Its either caught promptly or not at all. Surveillance may catch it but NOT call down because that alerts the craps team that they are under observation and sometimes the eye in the sky wants to keep looking after they see one mistake just to see if they see lots more of them.
Paigowdan

PaiGowDan, I know what your position is (ethically) but here's what I'd ask.
Do you really think that (most) casinos' management and security would go out of their way to correct dealer mistakes that favor the house?


Yes, absolutely, and we do it ALL time! - I will give some examples below...
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Assuming that dealers make mistakes just as often both ways, if the house corrects the mistakes that favor the players, but not the ones that favor the house, the HE has grown. So my general rule of thumb would be to correct dealers mistakes that favor the house, but not the ones that favor me. If they catch it, I won't put up a fight. Unless I found a property that I knew was doing their best to make sure mistakes that favor the house were corrected as well. In that case, I'd correct all mistakes I caught (as I do in poker games with my friends, and such. In that case, I won't take a mistake in my favor, because I'm pretty certain the other players wouldn't, either.) I just don't think I'd find that.
My first time in a casino, I'm pretty sure I was either cheated, or the dealer made a mistake in taking my bet. I didn't know any better, so I didn't think about it, but I guess knowing it now I would have tried to correct it.


Dealers are human, and like clerks, cashiers, and bank tellers, also make mistakes. In terms of deliberate cheating, it is not the case, and the moeny in the rack is not the dealer's money, and his care is to simply carry out the results of the game in a neutral fashion to the best of his ability, and where ability may vary.
Now, for some examples in correcting plays to help the players, which are done all the time:
1. In Pai Gow: the house ways that many casinos use are in some ways weaker in setting than optimal play. Examples of this include setting the hand 6544332 as two pairs together rather than a straight, a weakness of the 'two pair rule.' Obviously, it is better for the dealer to set the hand as 43/65432 than 65/44332, as just about all player two pair hands kept together with a King or ace top will win, as would split up full houses, and as would three of a kinds with even an 8 for the top. Many dealers play Pai Gow Poker very well, and naturally and simply set the hand correctly from natural knowledge, but will always reset it to the weaker house way if a player or floorman points it out, that is, if he doesn't himself. I see this corrected all the time to give the players the win.
2. In Blackjack, a floorman will always say, when seeing a dealer pushing his 18 hand against a player's 19 hand (often A-8), say to the dealer, 'pay the player, he won, not pushed.' Another example is a player hits a 12 against a 2 and gets a ten card; player claims 'I didn't hit here!,' - often lying. Quite often it is given to the player to keep the peace and the game moving.
3. In craps, many late bets thrown in but not yet set up are met with players' claims. Player throws in some nickels and says, 'Give me a three-way slammy-jammy with a 7 & 7 on the rocks!' - as the dice are flying, just to take a shot. Guaranteed, whatever the dice land as, the player will say 'Yes! My Hi-Low/Hopping sixes/C & E/Hopping hard-10' etc., etc., etc., 'WON!!! PAY ME!!' Quite often, we give it to the shot taker just not to slow the game down, by calling surveillance to see if the stickman waved off the bet.
CasinoI've worked for years in the casino pit, and have NEVER seen a shot taken by a dealer or floorman (like it's our personal money to care about via the cheating of others), but have often seen players often take that position, as if the juice of gambling does NOT stem from the play of the cards or dice, by what kinds of petty theft and shenanigans one can possibly get away with as a 'little score.'
Even otherwise honest people WILL take money that they KNOW they did not legitimately earn via clean and correct play, but will often knowlingly take dirty money, if given the chance, - just like receiving full change for a $20 when paying with a $10 bill at a drive through. And yes, it is exactly the same situation indeed - knowingly receiving and taking wrong money, - when you knew what the right money was. For people to return wrong money at a 7-11, but to take it at a casino, is NO different for the same person to return wrong money at the casino - and take it at the 7-11, when given the opportunity. If you feel these are different circumstances, it is ONLY because you feel that one business is more 'legitimate' than the other in your heart, when in reality, they are both equally legitimate business.
Like in the example above, the dealer who paid in green instead of red for a one-off mistake may lose his job, with many players just caring for what they can take by any means possible, and knowing full well it was wrong. Guaranteed, if he had paid red on a green flat bet, noisy outrage would have ensued over that innocent mistake, too.
And you cannot say in one case, 'It is the dealer's job to pay correctly' when you either don't say it about the 7-11 cashier, AND when you don't even say it about the dealer - when the mistake pays the dealer instead of you.
If we KNOW it is a wrong transaction, and wrong money, then it does not matter which direction the error went, - aside from our own greed in the matter, which is exactly the issue of ethics here. Casino dealers and floormen spend YEARS witnessing the depravity and bankrupt ethics of some players, and it is often these positions and justifications that we see on Internet forums also. Knowingly sticking your hand out to take money that you know is wrong by the real play of the deal is the issue. I have no grey area on this for me, especially when I play. If I get paid for a full house bonus, when I only had a three of a kind, I return the difference and tell the dealer it goes back into the house rack. And I am rare.
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Another example is a player hits a 12 against a 2 and gets a ten card; player claims 'I didn't hit here!,' - often lying. Quite often it is given to the player to keep the peace and the game moving.
Quite often the dealer is on Auto pilot or spacing out and hits the hand,even when player didn`t give a signal or waived it off. Of course automatically it is assumed the player is taking a shot.Yes some players do take shots but alot of times The players are telling the truth.Most casinos will resolve it in the players favor but with the floor saying make sure you give a clear hand signal,when the player gave a perfectly clear signal but the dealer wasn`t paying attention.
Paigowdan


Quite often the dealer is on Auto pilot or spacing out and hits the hand,even when player didn`t give a signal or waived it off.


Yes, but being on auto-pilot is not dealer cheating, it is incompetence.
And a player will frequently take no action deliberately on his turn to hit or stand, in order to make a claim.
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Of course automatically it is assumed the player is taking a shot.


No, it is not assumed, many players make innocent mistakes, and they are viewed for what they are - innocent mistakes.

Yes some players do take shots but alot of times The players are telling the truth.


Yes, we know this, and we separate the wheat from the chaff. SOMETIMES the players are telling the truth, and sometimes they lie.

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Quote: Hunterhill

Most casinos will resolve it in the players favor but with the floor saying make sure you give a clear hand signal,when the player gave a perfectly clear signal but the dealer wasn`t paying attention.


Seldom happens. A clear hand signal is just about always spotted. Certainly, this would be clear to surveillance on review, along with a dealer clearly ignoring this signal for a write up on the dealer's part. What more often happens is the dealer plows through assuming a stand on a 12 against a 2, opening the door to a shot.
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